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Irvonia
Feb 10, 2013 15:07:27 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 10, 2013 15:07:27 GMT -5
I've heard he has a nasty HE list but I'm up for the challenge..
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Irvonia
Feb 10, 2013 19:57:01 GMT -5
Post by apothecarybob on Feb 10, 2013 19:57:01 GMT -5
HE in generally are just a-holes
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Irvonia
Feb 10, 2013 20:26:57 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 10, 2013 20:26:57 GMT -5
Ya always strike first now giving rerolls for failed misses when your iniative is equal to or higher than your opponent's is a big bonus for them. At least they are all t3 though.
Don't even get me started on Teclis. He is his own level of broken..
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Irvonia
Feb 10, 2013 21:19:14 GMT -5
Post by apothecarybob on Feb 10, 2013 21:19:14 GMT -5
At least Teclis dies when you touch him. Try swordmasters. Great weapon elves who SHOULD ASL, but they have ASF, so instead of cancelling each other out, GW rules that they still get ASF. Like wtf? they're one of the tougher armies to fight against
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Irvonia
Feb 10, 2013 21:28:32 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 10, 2013 21:28:32 GMT -5
Well touching him is the challenge. His magic is just way too good and broken. All he needs is one decent magic phase.
That is kinda stupid have to agree. Why can't they be like everyone else and have ASF and ASL cancel each other out? Swordsmasters are already I6 and WS6. I don't think I've ever played them but I've heard plenty about them. At least they are almost all T3.
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Irvonia
Feb 10, 2013 22:10:37 GMT -5
Post by apothecarybob on Feb 10, 2013 22:10:37 GMT -5
true, T3 doesnt go very far. But its surviving long enough to hurt them that is difficult
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 9:19:44 GMT -5
Post by bob on Feb 11, 2013 9:19:44 GMT -5
There's a reason Teclis is banned in GTs.
Fateweaver is too. If Teclis shows up, the Daemons will answer the escalation...
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 9:27:30 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 11, 2013 9:27:30 GMT -5
I thought you were using VC?
I hope we can agree to not use Teclis or Fateweaver. It takes the fun out of the game to have to play agaisnt a character that broken..
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 10:53:42 GMT -5
Post by bob on Feb 11, 2013 10:53:42 GMT -5
Now you're walking down a dangerous road. Who decides what's broken and what isn't? Comp restrictions are a touchy thing! And if you'll recall, I reserved the right to switch to the new Daemon book if it came out before we started
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 12:09:38 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 11, 2013 12:09:38 GMT -5
I hope we can all agree Teclis and the Fateweaver are broken. As far as on the line broken stuff for WoC, I'm more than happy to never use the +3 ward rerolling 1s stubborn disc character. I never use that as I don't like to use stuff I consider a little too good.
I recal. It's doubtful though that it will come out before we start. I'm assuming we are starting early March which doesn't leave much time for it to be released.
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 13:49:43 GMT -5
Post by bob on Feb 11, 2013 13:49:43 GMT -5
So you get to decide what's too powerful? I think the stubborn disc guy is appropriately priced and has hard counters, so he's not a big deal.
No offense intended, but I suggest we leave our personal prejudices aside and let the game mechanics take care of themselves. If something's not a problem, there's no sense in fixing it.
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 14:11:18 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 11, 2013 14:11:18 GMT -5
I understand what you're thinking Bob. Let's leave it as is then. Grady should be finished with the rules soon.
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 15:08:04 GMT -5
Post by panther on Feb 11, 2013 15:08:04 GMT -5
The rules will be done by the weekend I do not think i will out right ban characters but they might not be allowed in certain scenarios.
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 16:15:47 GMT -5
Post by Ben on Feb 11, 2013 16:15:47 GMT -5
Fair enough.
Any idea when you'll be ready to start the campaign?
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Irvonia
Feb 11, 2013 16:21:51 GMT -5
Post by panther on Feb 11, 2013 16:21:51 GMT -5
Ben its been finalized look under so it begins.
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