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Post by captainecho on May 29, 2013 15:34:47 GMT -5
I understand if this is moved but I figured I would post here for the sake of advice from the other Warmachine painters out there.
I send this along to Tim, because I wanted his expert sagely advice, but I'm curious as to what others thought as well.
I will post pictures later, I've gotten the base coat and black pieces done, but am planning on moving on to skin and the second layer of paint on the Chitin and claws.
I want my Legion to look good, and as Rod pointed out with a low model count, it is concievable to get these looking great.
I also want to finish painting my 25 points before I go out and buy additional models for a list.
Painting wise I am considering 2 options...
#1 - get some blue wash from GW and use that to do the skin, using Frostbite color (again from the privateer set) to do highlighting on the raised pieces.)
#2 - do a watered down version of several layers of Frostbite blue to get a gradual shading on my skin, followed by a wash to finish it off.
and some other questions...
Question #1 - How should I water down my paints? how much is too much? I want it thin but not watery.
Question #2 - is there a smart way to locally apply a wash?
Question #3 - should I pick up some more shades of brown for the Chitin? or just use some of the FOW shades I've got? I was wondering how worth it is it to buy some additional Privateer paints.
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Post by sionnach19 on May 29, 2013 21:37:05 GMT -5
I've had some success using the wet palette to water some my paints -- I drag them across the tracing paper to make them thinner, and they go on just as well as a wash (some even lighter than a wash). I definitely think a blue wash is the way to go -- not sure whether to put it on first and frostbite over it, or do frostbite first and then wash in the creases. I usually localize my washes by applying them just in the models creases -- clothing, muscles, lines between skin and chitin in your case. You can also mix some white with frostbite too to make a brighter highlight color, if you want to get adventurous. Or, a simple/easier way could be laying down the blue wash and then drybrushing frostbite on top -- the drybrush will help you nail the highlights and keep the darker shading in the creases.
There are lots of different browns to paint as a miniature wargamer -- I use two consistently but wish I had more. I would try out a little bit on the shredder first though, and see if you like the colors that you have first.
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Post by captainecho on Jun 1, 2013 19:21:56 GMT -5
I know, I know, no pictures = it didn't happen. So here is what I did.... Base coat of Blue Gorax Nightshade Wash 3 layers of frostbite blue ANother wash of blue (skin) on the Chitin... Base white Watered down black as a foundation NATO Brown as a secondary layer Flat earth (FOW paint) for a lighter layer Graveyard earth with a lotta white in it for the highlights on the scales and thorny parts. I "experimented" on a shredder with a purple wash, and unfortunately, despite my efforts to hide it, he looks a bit like Barney....so I think I'll leave him like that and make him look even more mutated. I'm loving the Legion paint scheme. I think this is coming along. Thanks to Tim for the Highlighting advice I am a little worried about the infantry, they seem to be a bit darker and more complicated, the beasts, after a little fear on my part, were a lot more fun to paint than I thought they'd be! Sorry for the bad pics, I still need some practice with the presentation of these.... Next steps.... I will do a drybrush with some graveyard earth on the CHitin to bring out the highlights and make the scales pop more, followed by a light Mud Wash On the Skin, some frostbite with white for highlights, followed by another layer of wash, then on to the base.
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Post by Tim on Jun 3, 2013 3:47:59 GMT -5
Thos looks nice. And good quality photos. I really like that brown/tan color, it compliments the blue nicely.
When looking at this from a constructive stand point one thing jumps out at me, the light lines on the head. When ever you have a highlight in the middle of a shape like that I usually try to mimic the shape a bit so it doesn't just look like a line of paint. I would probably try to widen the back of that highlight a little bit so its a similar shape as the chitin plate on the head.
Really good looking stuff and I can't wait to see more.
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Post by bob on Jun 4, 2013 14:08:15 GMT -5
Really nice looking! Can't wait to see the finished product!
What did you have in mind for basing?
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Post by Dr Carnivean on Jun 5, 2013 6:33:17 GMT -5
Very nice! I really like that paint scheme - it gives them a very earthy natural look rather than the alien look their usual colors have.
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Post by captainecho on Jun 5, 2013 9:34:54 GMT -5
So I drybrushed, and did a Earthshade wash...but it darked the shell to much and took away the nice redish brown color, so I washed it again, and did it with a Sepia wash..I think that did the trick. I was going to do several layers of brown on the basing, and use some moss which I would stain some odd purple colors to give it a corrupted alien look. I'll experiment on the shredders again before I do that. More pictures when I get home this afternoon.
School ends in 4 days!
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Post by RodTheCid on Jun 8, 2013 8:10:31 GMT -5
very nice job Tom, I think your Horde army is the best thing that could happen to improve your painting skills, but I have bad news for you... there is no way back MUAAHAHAHA!
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Post by sionnach19 on Jun 8, 2013 22:55:55 GMT -5
These are awesome, Mullane! The skin looks great. I wanna see the new carapace, I think it would look good a little darker so interested to see what kind of effect you pulled off. I'll have to see them in person sometime this week.
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Post by captainecho on Jun 15, 2013 17:17:28 GMT -5
Here is the finished Carnivean. I added some highlights to the skin, and used that and the wash to cover some mistakes made earlier on the Carapace. I also did a Devlan mud wash and then a Sepia red brown wash to finish the carapace. I finished off the Skin with a light watered down wash of the Dusky Blue from GW. I also broke his arms off in transit. But I think its hard to see unless you look really closely. I used the same techniques on my shredders. Which I'll post later. Geez, the infantry and people with armor are hard....so many details. Lylith is next, along with the Ogrun Warspears. I think I will make sure I finish painting all my battle box before I pick up some forsaken or another major purchase. comments welcome! sorry for the late posting, I thought I'd have time a while ago...but school was es pecially sucky during the final weeks. (one more exam week to go.) And rod was right....there's no going back now. This model took me close to 8-10 hours. Nooooooooooooo!
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Post by Tim on Jun 15, 2013 19:08:53 GMT -5
Looks really really nice. Very natural and gruesome effect you have here. The chitin continues to impress. Well done sir.
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Post by sionnach19 on Jun 15, 2013 20:26:48 GMT -5
Awesome stuff, Mullane. Looks really cool. My only suggestion would be on the base -- it suffers from the same problems that my Tyranids do, which is that there isn't enough contrast between the base and the model which can remove some of the impact of a good paint job. The carapace looks really excellent, but the brown on the base overloads the model a bit (imo). A darker base (dark grey/black) or a lighter base (grass, or snow to be more thematic) could provide a bit more contrast. Honestly, you could probably leave the brown rocks the same -- I would just paint the little lip around the edge of the base a different color (you can't go wrong with black). Another element to that is the facings in WM/H -- most gamers will mark the front arc (180*) on the base, some with simple lines but others will go crazy with cool markings to dilineate the model's direction. Merely a suggestion! If you're happy with the brown as is, then go for it!
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Post by captainecho on Jun 15, 2013 22:04:00 GMT -5
I'm going to darken the base, dry brush with some white for show, add tundra grass, and also put in some purple stained moss petrified with glue/lacquer. So we'll see how that turns out.
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Post by sionnach19 on Jun 15, 2013 22:46:12 GMT -5
Oh man, then you'll be set then! I have some actual faux-snow flock stuff you can try out (I'm planning on using it with my Khador) -- if I see you this week remind me to bring you a little bit.
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Post by warpriest on Jun 16, 2013 0:29:05 GMT -5
I've got a bag of that too that I used to base my Khador battle box. It's mostly white with just a touch of glitter.
It came in handy when my daughter wrote a note to the tooth fairy a few weeks ago begging her to leave some fairy dust.
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